Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby BigBearf » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:56 am

I have been running WD20EADS drives for 8 months with no problems with the following suggestions.
See my sig below, the older firmware drives have been running without any alterations and have shown no problems. The last 2 drives that I got about 4 weeks ago required WDidle3 and WDTLER fixes and have performed flawlessly since then.

I got mine from BestBuy and checked the firmware and made sure that I could use the above fixes on the drives. Note that 2 of 4 drives had been previously used and repacked as new so make sure the drives are new and if possible have the older firmware (see sig below=00R6B0 firmware). You have 30 days to exchange the drives if needed. I think that it is worth it to use the WD drives since Seagate has really had some problems in the past 16 months.

I will probably get a know compatible firmware backup WD20EADS and eventually go to Enterprise drives after all of the bugs get worked out.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby Jan. » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:46 pm

Thanks for the info BigBearf.
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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby petercherry » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:40 am

I have seen that the WD20EADS 2TB drives have now been added to the official HCL for the pioneer pro which is great as I have been waiting to buy them.

Can any of the Jedis advise if this means that the high LLC count issue with these drives in ReadyNAS units is fixed? No specific firmware release is mentioned as required in the HCL.

I recently bought a WD10EADS for testing in a new RNPP and it has generated 1541 load cycles in 25 operating hours. I am aware that there is a WDIDLE3 fix but that this invalidates the WD warranty. I have had problems trying to apply the fix on the WD10EADS drive. I would like to know if this issue is now resolved with the WD20EADS 2TB drives or if Netgear is unconcerned about the high LLC counts?

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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby Desperado » Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:28 pm

I've been running two of these drives on my Pioneer for around 9 months (along with 2 1TB Seagates). I had to RMA one of them early on due to a high reallocated sector count, but I've had no problems with the replacement. I use mine mainly for media streaming.

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Model:     WDC WD20EADS-00R6B0
Serial:    WD-WCAVY0132573
Firmware:    01.00A01
Raw Read Error Rate   0
Spin Up Time   8625
Start Stop Count   40
Reallocated Sector Count   0
Seek Error Rate   0
Power On Hours   4664
Spin Retry Count   0
Calibration Retry Count   0
Power Cycle Count   38
Power-Off Retract Count   1
Load Cycle Count   39
Temperature Celsius   34
Reallocated Event Count   0
Current Pending Sector   0
Offline Uncorrectable   0
UDMA CRC Error Count   0
Multi Zone Error Rate   0
ATA Error Count   0


Model:     WDC WD20EADS-00R6B0
Serial:    WD-WCAVY0065489
Firmware:    01.00A01
SMART Attribute
Raw Read Error Rate   0
Spin Up Time   8641
Start Stop Count   21
Reallocated Sector Count   0
Seek Error Rate   0
Power On Hours   2050
Spin Retry Count   0
Calibration Retry Count   0
Power Cycle Count   21
Power-Off Retract Count   0
Load Cycle Count   21
Temperature Celsius   32
Reallocated Event Count   0
Current Pending Sector   0
Offline Uncorrectable   0
UDMA CRC Error Count   0
Multi Zone Error Rate   0
ATA Error Count   0
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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby BigBearf » Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:40 pm

Here is a screenshot of the SMART status of my RNPP

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As you can see I applied the WDIDLE3 and WDTLER dos fixes to the last drives. The first 4 have been OK without the fixes. Go figure.
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Hard Disk Brand, Model & Capacity: Western Digital FIVE-WD20EADS-00R6B0 TLER ON & WDIDLE /D
Hard Disk Brand, Model & Capacity: Western Digital ONE-WD20EADS-00S2B0 TLER ON & WDIDLE /D
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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby yachtman » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:49 pm

I've been running 4 x WD20EADS drives (all with the same firmware and model--01.00A01 / 00R6B--in my RPP for about six months and did not apply any of the drive patches suggested. My smart info looks fine, although I am concerned about the Load Cycle Count once I soon stop running Transmission (trying to finish the last torrent downloads). With Transmission running, its probably keeping my drives awake most of the time since its continuously downloading. I have my machine turn off from 2am-9am. The fifth drive I just added a couple of days ago.

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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby jmirabil » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:36 am

petercherry wrote:I have seen that the WD20EADS 2TB drives have now been added to the official HCL for the pioneer pro which is great as I have been waiting to buy them.

Can any of the Jedis advise if this means that the high LLC count issue with these drives in ReadyNAS units is fixed? No specific firmware release is mentioned as required in the HCL.

I recently bought a WD10EADS for testing in a new RNPP and it has generated 1541 load cycles in 25 operating hours. I am aware that there is a WDIDLE3 fix but that this invalidates the WD warranty. I have had problems trying to apply the fix on the WD10EADS drive. I would like to know if this issue is now resolved with the WD20EADS 2TB drives or if Netgear is unconcerned about the high LLC counts?

petercherry


Now that the WD20EADS drives are added, is there a minimum Raidiator version or prerequisites to use on the pro pioneer? can you just buy any wd20eads drive and use it--what changed, how is the "fix" or compatibility achieved exactly--what minimum conditions/restrictions allow compatibility or is this newfound compatibility a pig in a poke? Did i/we miss something?
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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby chal2les » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:55 pm

How does this only apply to the PRO, but not the NVX and downward?

What changed?

Thanks.

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Now that the WD20EADS drives are added, is there a minimum Raidiator version or prerequisites to use on the pro pioneer? can you just buy any wd20eads drive and use it--what changed, how is the "fix" or compatibility achieved exactly--what minimum conditions/restrictions allow compatibility or is this newfound compatibility a pig in a poke? Did i/we miss something?[/quote]
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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby mdgm » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:34 pm

I don't know when the list changed, but I'd be on the latest version of RAIDiator x86 just to be safe.
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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby chal2les » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:13 am

Can we get an update from the Jedi's.
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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby dia3olik » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:32 pm

yeah please!
has the load unload issue been solved?
or only the tler one?
thanks!
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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby brayner » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:37 am

Need help

Here is the info 2 of my 6 WD 2TB drives

Model: WDC WD20EADS-11R6B1

Firmware: 80.00A80

SMART Attribute

Raw Read Error Rate 0
Spin Up Time 9691
Start Stop Count 23
Reallocated Sector Count 0
Seek Error Rate 0
Power On Hours 231
Spin Retry Count 0
Calibration Retry Count 0
Power Cycle Count 21
Power-Off Retract Count 8
Load Cycle Count 18977
Temperature Celsius 43
Reallocated Event Count 0
Current Pending Sector 0
Offline Uncorrectable 0
UDMA CRC Error Count 0
Multi Zone Error Rate 0

ATA Error Count 0

and


Model: WDC WD20EADS-00R6B0
Firmware: 01.00A01

SMART Attribute

Raw Read Error Rate 0
Spin Up Time 9391
Start Stop Count 42
Reallocated Sector Count 0
Seek Error Rate 0
Power On Hours 556
Spin Retry Count 0
Calibration Retry Count 0
Power Cycle Count 40
Power-Off Retract Count 7
Load Cycle Count 53976
Temperature Celsius 43
Reallocated Event Count 0
Current Pending Sector 0
Offline Uncorrectable 0
UDMA CRC Error Count 0
Multi Zone Error Rate 0

ATA Error Count 0

Why are the LCC so high?? I have the ReadyNAS Pro Business Edition with latest firmware
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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby OzzyJim » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:08 am

Hi, just looked through postings from Feb 2009 till Mar 2010!!!!!!!!

Have not seen positive or negative compatibility statement from the Netgear for WD20EADS on ReadyNAS Duo or NV+.

Would be grateful if Netgear (Jedi Council??) would put this to an end with a qualified HCL inclusion or stated exclusion for Duo and NV+.

(This is probably for another thread - as for the qualified WD20EARS inclusion - its great that something has appeared - although I was unable to source HDDs with the firmware / model specified.)
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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby Jonavin » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:57 am

Just added a WD20EADS (00S2B0) recently after I saw that it made the HCL list and found that my LCC is extremely high.

Non-Zero SMART stats:
Start Stop Count 5
Power On Hours 371
Power Cycle Count 4
Power-Off Retract Count 3
Load Cycle Count 42257
Temperature Celsius 36

ReadyNAS Pro Pioneer running 4.2.9
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Re: Western Digital WD20EADS 2TB Compatability

Postby jmirabil » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:54 am

You guys see why I was so skeptical of this wd20eads inclusion and made the pig in a poke statement now - Netgear HAS NOT solved this compatibility issue and is content to not even answer and clarify such questions publically and authoritatively in a forum like this. Unacceptable.
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