Version of Debian

[beisser]

yes but the d410 is clearly no highend.. its the entry version of that series.

the old atom n2xx may have only supported 2gb but the newer d4xx or d5xx definitely support more.

[exxos]

Hi,

Thank you for this information about the version of Debian that the ReadyNas(s) x86 support.
But for my part I still think that it is not acceptable to continue supporting discontinued version of Debian. This waste if you consider the great perfomances and quality of the hardware embedded on the ReadyNas x86 compared to the competitors. Having a system up to date could help the community to propose interesting features. Finaly, this lack cannot make the ReadyNas a real alternative to others NAS on the market. For example, out of the box, we cannot consider the ReadyNas x86 as a personnal web hosting solution. Open your eyes, we are in 2012 and everybody have a blog and a facebook account! Why there is no way to install (and easely) version of PHP above to 5.2 whereas other competitors like QNAP and Synology propose it as preinstalled and FOR FREE! No doubt that Netgear can progress on this issue and stop offering only minor updates of thier RAIDiator (even if the considerations focus on stability against new features).

Regards,
exxos.

[mdgm]

NetGear has looked into upgrading to a newer distribution. Unfortunately there are some conflicts that need to be sorted out before this will be possible. Remember the feature set needs to be maintained. The x86 line goes back to the Pro released back in late 2008. For now it's easy to backport packages to work on etch.

The new ARM line is on Debian Squeeze. I presume NetGear would want to update x86 to this distribution at some point. It'd make a lot of sense to have both platforms on the same Debian distribution. Even once the issues are sorted out it'll take a lot of testing to make sure that it works smoothly. One would think that this could well happen alongside a refresh of the UI to the new Dashboard interface that's already used on the ARM products. This all takes some time.

WhoCares? spends countless hours working on developing add-ons and testing them to make as sure as possible that ordinary users don't get something that's buggy. It can take hours to compile an add-on. One problem that has to be corrected and he has to recompile it all over again and re-test it. It's not unreasonable in my view for him to charge a small fee to support his work.

[exxos]

Yes, but if I can produce an add-on or an alternative solution and even if this takes me a while to achieve it, I will propose it to the community for free as a contribution for all people who have worked to support others tools that I use today day by day... Thanks to the licenses like LGPL and or Apache, etc... No other comment from my part.

[elgoretto]

NetGear has looked into upgrading to a newer distribution. Unfortunately there are some conflicts that need to be sorted out before this will be possible. Remember the feature set needs to be maintained. The x86 line goes back to the Pro released back in late 2008. For now it's easy to backport packages to work on etch.

I understand that, but I don't think netgear can/will maintain the whole system (so an old distrib) all by itself when it has to care about its customisations/own software parts and to work on storage specific code.
Let's say kernel or some other OS centric component has a a security flaw... and they have since "Security updates have been discontinued as of the end of February 2010".

If debian doesn't maintain something anymore, I highly doubt netgear will substitute to them (and I wouldn't trust them to do that even, that's not their job...).

To me, it's a critical issue.

[mdgm]

NetGear does backport security patches where needed.

If you want to remain on the bleeding edge and have maximum control of your system then you need to build and maintain your own system, but if it breaks you need the skills to fix it.

[exxos]

All this stuff makes me think that: "Tell me what you need and i will tell you how to live without it"

[StephenB]

All this stuff makes me think that: "Tell me what you need and i will tell you how to live without it"

Perhaps a fair criticism.

My guess is that there are enough customizations made that migrating to squeeze would take a lot of work.

However, it would be nice to see them update it at some point, as it would make installing other packages easier. Though I personally don't do much of that (installed CrashPlan, but that's about it). So back porting security fixes is sufficient for me right now. I understand that might not be enough for other folks though.

[exxos]

Thank you for your point of view and I understand that it could be difficult to migrate the current features without regressions. But by reading the forum, I have the feeling (we can open the bets) that we will never see any upgrade of the Debian etch for x86. In the past, Netgear has often proved it ... but I hope I'm wrong.

[StephenB]

Thank you for your point of view and I understand that it could be difficult to migrate the current features without regressions. But by reading the forum, I have the feeling (we can open the bets) that we will never see any upgrade of the Debian etch for x86...

I won't bet against you. An upgrade for a future platform (no matter what processor) seems more likely to me.

[arnomc]

well my netbook is a d525 and the ultra4 is a d410. both definitely support 4gb modules because im using them

beisser :
I was looking to upgrade the DDR3 in a readyNAS ultra 2 (i have the new version with only a D405 instead the D410). I tried two modules with 4 chips per face (8total) and both didn't worked ! So for now I put a 2GB module. Ifyou come back here on this forum, could you find some time to give the brand and reference number of the 4GB module you put in your Ultra 4 ?
I would really appreciate.
arnomc.

[chirpa]

arnomc, this is an old thread on another topic. I am going to lock it from future replies. Your answer can be found here: viewforum.php?f=110