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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby CitizenPlain » Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:49 am

imlucid wrote:Just curious, what mechanism are you using to do the large file transfers?


My incidents have been while copying through the Finder from an external drive to an AFP-connected share on the ReadyNAS.
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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby evanhatesspam » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:15 am

On the Mac OS X question: I will eventually be using my new ReadyNAS with a Mac or two, but not until a clean RAID-6 volume is built...
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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby Greg Staten » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:01 pm

More evidence that there may be something funky going on here, firmware wise.

Have a Pro Pioneer and after updating it this evening to the latest firmware, suddenly channels 2, 3, 4, and 5 report as dead. Haven't even had a SMART error up until now. Everything was fine until I did the firmware update.

If that isn't odd, here's what happened immediately after the firmware update:

1. RAIDar shows all drives as green.
2. Frontview simultaneously shows channels 2-5 as DEAD.
3. I can browse the shares and successfully both loaded files off the drives and moves files around.

About ten minutes later RAIDar also reported the drives had failed, as did the front panel on the ReadyNAS Pro Pioneer. The shares were no longer accessible.

Then I rebooted the device. After the reboot the same situation as above happens again. Good in RAIDar, DEAD in FrontView, shares accessible.

Ran a volume scan and it completed with no errors. Yet the same conditions apply: RAIDar thinks thinks are fine, FrontView thinks I'm screwed. My confidence is quite low at the moment...

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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby mdgm » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:05 pm

Greg you probably should start a new thread, open an Online tech support case and post your case number there.
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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby CitizenPlain » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:02 am

Reading back through this, there seems to be a commonality in our disks being erroneously reported as dead and the use of OSX.

Summary: (user: details)

bluewombie: Ultra 6 (not plus), OSX Snowleopard, AFP
imlucid: Pro Pioneer, OSX Snow Leopard and Leopard, Time Machine
citizenplain (me): Ultra 6 Plus, OSX Snow Leopard, AFP file transfer, Time Machine
evanhatesspam: Ultra 6 Plus

None of us have had abnormal results from any disk checks. All of us are having trouble with the Seagate ST2000DL003-9VT166 drives.

Didn't catch if user bluewombie has Time Machine enabled. Not sure how evanhatesspam is accessing his NAS.

I updated to the new firmware (RAIDiator-x86 4.2.16) recently, but haven't had a need to do a large file transfer since updating. The updates described in the change log for this version didn't sound like they specifically address this problem. We'll see if it makes a difference.

Anything I'm missing here or any other details we could add to this? Bluewombie, did you ever get anywhere with tech support?
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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby bluewomble » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:28 am

CitizenPlain: Yes, that looks like a good summary. I am also using Time Machine.

My conversations with tech support weren't enormously helpful... the guy reccomended:
1. Running the ReadyNAS extended disk test (passed)
2. Running SeaTools long drive test on each disk (they all passed)
3. Reinstalling the OS (done)

Since I followed these steps, I haven't _yet_ had any further problems... though I'm reluctant to say that the issue is fixed because it seems to me that none of the above steps _ought_ to fix the problem.

Since then I have also installed the new firmware update (RAIDiator-x86 4.2.16).

I have tried to do some fairly large file transfers, but haven't yet managed to make the problem reappear.
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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby imlucid » Mon May 09, 2011 7:18 pm

Disk 3 reported "failed" a week ago, now disk 4...

Still no reported failures on my mirrored rsync unit...
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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby imlucid » Mon May 09, 2011 7:53 pm

Hmm, interesting new developments...

So after drive reported failure I shutdown, pulled drive, replaced and booted.

Drive still shows missing so I do the same steps again waiting a bit longer and on boot it starts resyncing the drive. So far so good.

After it was around 1.6% done or so, I checked to see if I could mount cifs via finder, no problem.

I tried to load the frontview web admin and at first it wouldn't load, but after a couple of tries it loads but doesn't fill in any text. Then the drive's fans go on full blast and what appears to be something like a progress bar on the LED on the front of the NAS starts flashing from left to right a few times and the NAS then reboots...

Interesting.

So I do the same steps again and once again right when I'm trying to load the web UI, the server reboots again with same symptoms...

I'm now going to leave it alone as it is trying to resync again (3rd time a charm?).

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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby diode » Sun May 15, 2011 12:03 am

I have just experienced the same issue with my Ultra4 and these seagate harddrives.
I have performed a factory reset and this has fixed it for now but there has to be a bug somewhere.
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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby theali3n » Sat May 21, 2011 4:40 pm

Just had the same problem with Ultra4 Plus.

Also running all OSX in the house. The NAS has been up for weeks now. I've copied all my media on there. "today" was the 1st time I've really had a chance to use it. Besides copying several multi-gig isos around everything seemed to be ok. I enabled ReadyNAS backup today and kicked off a backup. It was about 70gig into a 250gig backup and I got a failure email from disk3.

I have not done any of the steps yet in this thread, but something weird going on and I specifically bought off the HCL having had issues with NV/NV+ and WD EARS drives awhile go.

from DMESG:

ata5.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
ata5.00: failed command: FLUSH CACHE EXT
ata5.00: cmd ea/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0
res 40/00:01:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout)
ata5.00: status: { DRDY }
ata5: hard resetting link
ata5: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
ata5: COMRESET failed (errno=-16)
ata5: hard resetting link
ata5: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
ata5: COMRESET failed (errno=-16)
ata5: hard resetting link
ata5: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
ata5: COMRESET failed (errno=-16)
ata5: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
ata5: hard resetting link
ata5: COMRESET failed (errno=-16)
ata5: reset failed, giving up
ata5.00: disabled
ata5.00: device reported invalid CHS sector 0
ata5: EH complete
sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Unhandled error code
sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Result: hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 a9 e8 08 00 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 2850555904
sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Unhandled error code
sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Result: hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 12 89 80 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 1214848
md/raid1:md0: sdc1: rescheduling sector 1212736
sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Unhandled error code
sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Result: hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] CDB: Write(10): 2a 00 00 90 00 50 00 00 02 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 9437264
end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 9437264
md: super_written gets error=-5, uptodate=0
md/raid:md2: Disk failure on sdc5, disabling device.
<1>md/raid:md2: Operation continuing on 3 devices.
sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Unhandled error code
sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Result: hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] CDB: Write(10): 2a 00 00 00 00 48 00 00 02 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 72
end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 72
md: super_written gets error=-5, uptodate=0
md/raid1:md0: Disk failure on sdc1, disabling device.
<1>md/raid1:md0: Operation continuing on 3 devices.
RAID conf printout:
--- level:5 rd:4 wd:3
disk 0, o:1, dev:sda5
disk 1, o:1, dev:sdb5
disk 2, o:0, dev:sdc5
disk 3, o:1, dev:sdd5
RAID conf printout:
--- level:5 rd:4 wd:3
disk 0, o:1, dev:sda5
disk 1, o:1, dev:sdb5
disk 3, o:1, dev:sdd5
RAID1 conf printout:
--- wd:3 rd:4
disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda1
disk 1, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdb1
disk 2, wo:1, o:0, dev:sdc1
disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd1
RAID1 conf printout:
--- wd:3 rd:4
disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda1
disk 1, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdb1
disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd1
md/raid1:md0: redirecting sector 1212736 to other mirror: sdb1

This sux :( It's not cheap to put this stuff together.
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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby theali3n » Sun May 29, 2011 11:46 am

Disk 2 has just done the same thing.

It's got to be something with the backplane/raid, firmware and/or drive incompatibility. Maybe they the drives should be marked as such in the Compatibility guide.

Note. I plugged in my USB drive and was moving files from that to the raid disk locally. CP jobs were started from the console. Large files +/-2gig each.

My drive 3 had been stable since my previous post. I pray for a firmware upgrade...
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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby paul4321 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:09 pm

So i have been running into the exact same issues, error logs and lack of solid evidence showing that the disks are bad.
However, im not running Netgear at all. I created my own Linux based NAS solution (based on some specs of commercial NAS solutions).

Hardware specs:
Supermicro X7SPA-H-D525 integrated D525 processor
Intel® ICH9R Express Chipset
4 x 2 TB ST2000DL003-9VT1 disks
Raid 5

I have had two failures in the past 3 weeks, and in both situations, I could shutdown the box, re-insert the disk and start it up again.
This would trigger a resync and everything looks fine.
Other sites I have read have made the following recomendataions:
Try new SATA cables
Try a more powerfull power supply (this wouldnt apply for Netgear users)
Try new disks
Check for overheating

I have been monitoring the heat of the disks, and all 4 are below 40 deg C (within appropreate ranges).

Another site mentioned that each disk would fail once, and only once. So once they all failed for the first time, you should not see any more issues.

My take on all this...
Switching disks would probably fix this issue. Since these disks are classified as "low power/green" disks, it could be that under increased stress, the disks dont draw enough power to compensate causing a temporary hardware failure in the drive. Future smart and manufacturer test don't stress the power of the disk the same way.

So if it continues, I will buy new SATA cables... if it still continues, I will buy new drives...
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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby imlucid » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:26 pm

Well I've had the same disk reporting failures more than once so I don't think its a matter of fail once and your good...
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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby paul4321 » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:05 pm

So last night when my 4th disk was re-syncing, I decided to tax the system as heavily as possible. Within 30 min disks 2 and 3 both failed at the same time. A hard reboot (and a completely lost raid array) and all 4 disks looked, acted and tested normal (minus all my lost data which was ok because I have it backed up).
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Re: Disk Failure Detected...

Postby paul4321 » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:38 pm

Similar threads:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=625922
http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=182&t=39893&start=30

Some strong words on the Seagate site itself:
http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Barracuda-XT-Barracuda-Barracuda/ST2000DL003-Barracuda-Green-not-detected-at-BIOS/td-p/87154/page/7
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