New here and to ReadyNAS - Website/FTP/USB Ex HDD help plz!

[enklined]

Hi all! Let me start by saying thanks for reading this, and I greatly appreciate any responses!

My Website related Q's:
Alright, so I went through the steps and setup my "website" on my ReadyNAS Duo. Where I get lost is the whole DNS thing...
I created a dyndns.org account, enklined.dyndns.org which points to my CURRENT IP address, and setup my Linksys WRT54G router with my dyndns.org credentials (I guess my router will send the new IP info to dyndns.org if/when my IP changes).

I have purchased a domain on GoDaddy.com, and was previously being hosted by someone else. I changed my GoDaddy account to use the GoDaddy NameServers. I then went into Total DNS Control, and changed my ARecord to point to my IP address. This is where I think I've gone wrong - once my IP changes, enklined.com will no longer point to my NAS - do I put my enklined.dyndns.org there, instead of my IP? If I do that, when I go to enklined.com, won't it just show as enklined.dyndns.com in the URL, or no?

Another thing, I went through the guide on this site to create my website, and now when going to my website, the URL says "http://enklined.com/website" - if possible, I'd like to "hide" the "website" share on the URL. How is this done?

FTP Q's:
How do I set this up? I can't seem to get this to work - I need a lot of hand-holding, I think!

I've got the FTP settings in Frontview as follows:

EDIT: I have tried to stop the FTP service, and start is up again through Frontview. I get the following error: Error starting FTP service. I assume this is why I'm unable to connect using FTP. Anyone have any ideas how I can resolve this error?
EDIT2: I updated to the latest beta firmware and it resolved my FTP issue. Thanks!

USB External Drive Q:
When a USB drive is connected, is it possible to access that drive? I've got some data on an External that I'd rather plug into the NAS and transfer to the NAS via USB, rather than having the USB drive connected to my Mac and transferring over Wifi or ethernet.

And lastly, connection to Frontview form outside my home network...When I connect to http://enklined.com/admin I'm asked for my Frontview credentials. I input them, and then...Nothing. Frontview never loads. Whats the deal?

Thanks for reading, and I look forward to any and all posts/help!

[enklined]

Can anyone help me out? This stuff is driving me crazy :p

If I should split my problems up into seperate posts in seperate threads or something, let me know.

[dbott67]

Hi all! Let me start by saying thanks for reading this, and I greatly appreciate any responses!

My Website related Q's:
Alright, so I went through the steps and setup my "website" on my ReadyNAS Duo. Where I get lost is the whole DNS thing...
I created a dyndns.org account, enklined.dyndns.org which points to my CURRENT IP address, and setup my Linksys WRT54G router with my dyndns.org credentials (I guess my router will send the new IP info to dyndns.org if/when my IP changes).

I have purchased a domain on GoDaddy.com, and was previously being hosted by someone else. I changed my GoDaddy account to use the GoDaddy NameServers. I then went into Total DNS Control, and changed my ARecord to point to my IP address. This is where I think I've gone wrong - once my IP changes, enklined.com will no longer point to my NAS - do I put my enklined.dyndns.org there, instead of my IP? If I do that, when I go to enklined.com, won't it just show as enklined.dyndns.com in the URL, or no?

Set the DNS record at GoDaddy to point to enklined.dyndns.org. The dynamic DNS site will then forward the request to your IP address. I am currently doing this myself --- I have a primary website hosted publicly (http://www.bott.ca) and a wordpress blog hosted at home (http://home.bott.ca/). The registered domain name is displayed, not the dynamic DNS name.

Another thing, I went through the guide on this site to create my website, and now when going to my website, the URL says "http://enklined.com/website" - if possible, I'd like to "hide" the "website" share on the URL. How is this done?

Check the other thread that you created for info about mod_rewrite (I haven't done it myself, but it may do the trick for you).

USB External Drive Q:
When a USB drive is connected, is it possible to access that drive? I've got some data on an External that I'd rather plug into the NAS and transfer to the NAS via USB, rather than having the USB drive connected to my Mac and transferring over Wifi or ethernet.

Just plug the USB drive into one of the 3 ports on the NAS. Then, using SSH access or a backup job, copy the data to the new location on the NAS. Using Windows Explorer (or drag'n'drop) from the OS will cause the files to be copied from the USB to the local machine and then back to the NAS (which can be painfully slow if you have a lot of data).

And lastly, connection to Frontview form outside my home network...When I connect to http://enklined.com/admin I'm asked for my Frontview credentials. I input them, and then...Nothing. Frontview never loads. Whats the deal?

Thanks for reading, and I look forward to any and all posts/help!

Admin access requires https access. If you try accessing via http (port 80) the page will redirect you to port 443 (https). So, make sure that you are forwarding port 443 to your NAS from the external WAN interface.

-Dave

[enklined]

Hi all! Let me start by saying thanks for reading this, and I greatly appreciate any responses!

My Website related Q's:
Alright, so I went through the steps and setup my "website" on my ReadyNAS Duo. Where I get lost is the whole DNS thing...
I created a dyndns.org account, enklined.dyndns.org which points to my CURRENT IP address, and setup my Linksys WRT54G router with my dyndns.org credentials (I guess my router will send the new IP info to dyndns.org if/when my IP changes).

I have purchased a domain on GoDaddy.com, and was previously being hosted by someone else. I changed my GoDaddy account to use the GoDaddy NameServers. I then went into Total DNS Control, and changed my ARecord to point to my IP address. This is where I think I've gone wrong - once my IP changes, enklined.com will no longer point to my NAS - do I put my enklined.dyndns.org there, instead of my IP? If I do that, when I go to enklined.com, won't it just show as enklined.dyndns.com in the URL, or no?

Set the DNS record at GoDaddy to point to enklined.dyndns.org. The dynamic DNS site will then forward the request to your IP address. I am currently doing this myself --- I have a primary website hosted publicly (http://www.bott.ca) and a wordpress blog hosted at home (http://home.bott.ca/). The registered domain name is displayed, not the dynamic DNS name.

Another thing, I went through the guide on this site to create my website, and now when going to my website, the URL says "http://enklined.com/website" - if possible, I'd like to "hide" the "website" share on the URL. How is this done?

Check the other thread that you created for info about mod_rewrite (I haven't done it myself, but it may do the trick for you).

USB External Drive Q:
When a USB drive is connected, is it possible to access that drive? I've got some data on an External that I'd rather plug into the NAS and transfer to the NAS via USB, rather than having the USB drive connected to my Mac and transferring over Wifi or ethernet.

Just plug the USB drive into one of the 3 ports on the NAS. Then, using SSH access or a backup job, copy the data to the new location on the NAS. Using Windows Explorer (or drag'n'drop) from the OS will cause the files to be copied from the USB to the local machine and then back to the NAS (which can be painfully slow if you have a lot of data).

And lastly, connection to Frontview form outside my home network...When I connect to http://enklined.com/admin I'm asked for my Frontview credentials. I input them, and then...Nothing. Frontview never loads. Whats the deal?

Thanks for reading, and I look forward to any and all posts/help!

Admin access requires https access. If you try accessing via http (port 80) the page will redirect you to port 443 (https). So, make sure that you are forwarding port 443 to your NAS from the external WAN interface.

-Dave

Dave, thanks for your reply!

GoDaddy.com will not let me place "enklined.dyndns.org" in the Points to Field for the A (Host) Record. It will only allow me to put an IP address. Please advise.

SSH access eh? I'm not familiar at all with it, except for what I've done setting up PHP. I'll have to learn the commands and proper syntax before I mess with that. To start it off, can you tell me how I would find the name or location of the drive i plugged into the NAS? i.e: cp USBHDD??? /media/ <----how do I find out the location or name of the drive. (I hope my question makes sense...)

I have both ports, 80 and 443 forwarding to the NAS. When I access http://enklined.com/admin I'm greeted with the Login prompt. I insert my credentials, and nothing happens - the page times out. What else could I be missing?

[dbott67]

GoDaddy.com will not let me place "enklined.dyndns.org" in the Points to Field for the A (Host) Record. It will only allow me to put an IP address. Please advise.

I just double-checked my setup. I'm actually using a CNAME (alias) to re-direct to my dynamic DNS address:

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home.bott.ca --> myhost.dyndns.com --> my ever-changing IP address

Does GoDaddy support CNAMEs?

SSH access eh? I'm not familiar at all with it, except for what I've done setting up PHP. I'll have to learn the commands and proper syntax before I mess with that. To start it off, can you tell me how I would find the name or location of the drive i plugged into the NAS? i.e: cp USBHDD??? /media/ <----how do I find out the location or name of the drive. (I hope my question makes sense...)

Just log into FrontView (https://ip.address.of.nas/admin) and go to Shares > Share Listing > Shares on USB Storage Devices

It will show you any USB devices you have and the corresponding share-name.

As for SSH access, there is an add-on that you can install, however, if you are new to this it would be better to do it via backup job. Again, just login to FrontView (https://ip.address.of.nas/admin) and go to BACKUP > ADD A NEW BACKUP JOB. Follow through the steps (source; destination; schedule and options) and you should be good to go.

I have both ports, 80 and 443 forwarding to the NAS. When I access http://enklined.com/admin I'm greeted with the Login prompt. I insert my credentials, and nothing happens - the page times out. What else could I be missing?

Try going directly to https://enklined.com/admin. If you don't get the login, then there's something wrong with your port-forward rule for 443 (try deleting the rule & re-creating it and then re-boot the router). I tried accessing your NAS via http and got the login, but when I tried to go directly to https://enklined.com/admin it failed (which tells me that something is up with the 443 forward).

[enklined]

GoDaddy.com will not let me place "enklined.dyndns.org" in the Points to Field for the A (Host) Record. It will only allow me to put an IP address. Please advise.

I just double-checked my setup. I'm actually using a CNAME (alias) to re-direct to my dynamic DNS address:

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home.bott.ca --> myhost.dyndns.com --> my ever-changing IP address

Does GoDaddy support CNAMEs?

Sure does. I just changed the www alias to go to my dyndns.org address. Is that the correct Alias to change? And, does that mean that if I go to http://enklined.com instead of http://www.enklined.com that it will not work? Also, what do you have for the IP address under ARecord? I don't remember what the default was, and right now mine is pointing to my home IP, which I'm not sure is correct, as that IP will eventually change.

SSH access eh? I'm not familiar at all with it, except for what I've done setting up PHP. I'll have to learn the commands and proper syntax before I mess with that. To start it off, can you tell me how I would find the name or location of the drive i plugged into the NAS? i.e: cp USBHDD??? /media/ <----how do I find out the location or name of the drive. (I hope my question makes sense...)

Just log into FrontView (https://ip.address.of.nas/admin) and go to Shares > Share Listing > Shares on USB Storage Devices

It will show you any USB devices you have and the corresponding share-name.

As for SSH access, there is an add-on that you can install, however, if you are new to this it would be better to do it via backup job. Again, just login to FrontView (https://ip.address.of.nas/admin) and go to BACKUP > ADD A NEW BACKUP JOB. Follow through the steps (source; destination; schedule and options) and you should be good to go.

Yea, I have SSH add-on installed, but it does sound like I'd be better off going the way you have explained. And in doing so, I will be able to setup a backup that goes from USB Drive TO the NAS, right? I'm not interested (at this point) in going the other direction - i.e. NAS backup to external drive for offsiting of data.

I have both ports, 80 and 443 forwarding to the NAS. When I access http://enklined.com/admin I'm greeted with the Login prompt. I insert my credentials, and nothing happens - the page times out. What else could I be missing?

Try going directly to https://enklined.com/admin. If you don't get the login, then there's something wrong with your port-forward rule for 443 (try deleting the rule & re-creating it and then re-boot the router). I tried accessing your NAS via http and got the login, but when I tried to go directly to https://enklined.com/admin it failed (which tells me that something is up with the 443 forward).

Did what you said - deleted the entry, re-added, and restarted:


No success. For what it's worth, I can connect to my router's interface from "the outside" using https, so I don't know what the deal is. Any other ideas?

[dbott67]

Sure does. I just changed the www alias to go to my dyndns.org address. Is that the correct Alias to change? And, does that mean that if I go to http://enklined.com instead of http://www.enklined.com that it will not work? Also, what do you have for the IP address under ARecord? I don't remember what the default was, and right now mine is pointing to my home IP, which I'm not sure is correct, as that IP will eventually change.

This may get a little confusing, so bear with me. GoDaddy expects that you'll be hosting your site with them, but in your case, you're trying to host it yourself.

So, you could setup a site on Godaddy called "www.enklined.com" (which has different content and/or a re-direct to your home site) and using GoDaddy's DNS server's you could setup a 2nd site called "blog.enklined.com" that links back to your NAS. This is essentially what I did (http://www.bott.ca is publicly hosted; home.bott.ca is at my house).

In the case of your home-hosted site, your dynamic DNS host maintains the actual DNS record (A). You can tell GoDaddy's DNS server to setup an alias (CNAME) that re-directs "blog.enklined.com" to your dyndns.org name.

Yea, I have SSH add-on installed, but it does sound like I'd be better off going the way you have explained. And in doing so, I will be able to setup a backup that goes from USB Drive TO the NAS, right? I'm not interested (at this point) in going the other direction - i.e. NAS backup to external drive for offsiting of data.

Correct. You can use the USB drive as the source and the NAS as the destination (and vice-versa).

No success. For what it's worth, I can connect to my router's interface from "the outside" using https, so I don't know what the deal is. Any other ideas?

If you're router is already using https, then that is the problem. You'll need to do 1 of 2 things:

1. Use a different port for FrontView (ie. have the router re-direct port 10443 to port 443 on the NAS) then connect to your NAS using http://enklined.com:10443/

2. Disable external HTTPS access to your router.

[enklined]

Dave,

Sorry, I'm pretty new to all of this, so I appreciate your help and patience!

I understand (sorta) what you're saying bout the DNS stuff, except for the part about godaddy.com hosting a site for me - doesn't that cost money? I have the CNAME for the alias "www" pointing to "enklined.dyndns.org" - its the ARecord thats the potential problem. I'm thinking that when my IP changes, only http://www.enklined.com will work because www has a CNAME pointing to enklined.dyndns.org, and http://enklined.com will NOT work, because, if I understand it correctly, my ARecord is pointing to my IP directly, which is where "http://enklined.com" goes. If there's a free godaddy.com site or something that you're talking about, let me know. Otherwise, I guess I'll just access my site from http://www.enklined.com instead.

I checked out the back-up utility in frontview, and...well, I think I'd rather copy some things via SSH instead.
If possibly, would you mind pointing me to a good site to learn some SSH? I know "cp SOURCE DEST", pretty easy. Right now I'm going this route: ssh root@nas, then inputing the pass. How can I create/give access to another user? I don't always want to be logging into the root, right? I tried "ssh admin@nas" and inputing the pass, but it gives me the following:

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Linux NAS 2.6.17.8ReadyNAS #1 Tue Apr 8 16:46:37 PDT 2008 padre unknown
Connection to nas closed.

It's the right FrontView pass, too, because when I input the wrong pass, it says denied, try again.

Anyway, I'm trying to copy some Led Zeppelin from my NAS to a USB Flash drive. Here's the code, along with...well, it not working. Any ideas?

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NAS:~# cp /c/media/Music/LedZeppelin/* /USB_FLASH_2
cp: cannot create regular file `/USB_FLASH_2/:2eDS_Store': Invalid argument
cp: omitting directory `/c/media/Music/LedZeppelin/Led Zeppelin - Coda (1982) 1994 {Remaster}'
cp: omitting directory `/c/media/Music/LedZeppelin/Led Zeppelin - Houses Of The Holy (1973) {1994 Remaster}'
cp: omitting directory `/c/media/Music/LedZeppelin/Led Zeppelin - In Through The Out Door (1979) {1994 Remaster}'
cp: omitting directory `/c/media/Music/LedZeppelin/Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin I (1969) {1994 Remaster}'
cp: omitting directory `/c/media/Music/LedZeppelin/Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II (1969) {1994 Remaster}'
cp: omitting directory `/c/media/Music/LedZeppelin/Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin III (1970) {1994 Remaster}'
cp: omitting directory `/c/media/Music/LedZeppelin/Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV (1971) {1994 Remaster}'
cp: omitting directory `/c/media/Music/LedZeppelin/Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti (1975)'
cp: omitting directory `/c/media/Music/LedZeppelin/Led Zeppelin - Presence (1976) {1994 Remaster}'
cp: omitting directory `/c/media/Music/LedZeppelin/Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same (1976)'

As far as accessing FrontView over the internet, I tried step 2 of your suggestions first, to no avail. Then I tried step 1, and my browser instructed me to use https://enklined.com:10443/admin instead of http://. So, it works, but the URL is a little "dirtier" than I'd like. It'll work though, so, a big thanks to you!
If possible, I'd like to setup something like "http://admin.enklined.com" or "https://admin.enklined.com" to access FrontView. I don't know if thats even possible, or how exactly I'd do it...

Anyway, Dave, thanks a bunch for all your help. I really appreciate it, and I apologize for my "noobieness." To all you others, feel free to come in and give this guy a hand, eh? I feel bad...like I'm makin him work too hard! :p

[sphardy]

Hi,

To learn more about SSH, you can check out http://www.openssh.org/ - I believe this is the version of SSH included on the ReadyNAS. Note that you have the basics setup as you can log in as root.

Once connected to your NAS you are using a 'bash' shell - more details at http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html

For standard users to log in via ssh, they need to be permitted by having an appropriate shell specified (ToggleRootSSH only setups up the root user). A users' shell is set in the file '/etc/password' - compare the root user to a standard user who will have /bin/false as part of their entry rather than /bin/bash.

Word of warning - be very, very careful if you edit the passwd file - mess it up and you could screw all access to your ReadyNAS. It's changes like these that could cause Netgear to deny SW support.

Check out the 'cp' command more - type 'man cp' into google - you'll find that you need to add a '-R' switch to force cp to copy subdirectories eg

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cp -R source destination

Regarding addresses such as http://admin.enklined.com - this is a featre supported by the webserver (Apache) but you would need to manually set this up by modifying the webserver configuration as well as point the domain name to your machine. You can check out 'Virtualhosts' in the Apache online manual.

///P

[dbott67]

Dave,

Sorry, I'm pretty new to all of this, so I appreciate your help and patience!

I understand (sorta) what you're saying bout the DNS stuff, except for the part about godaddy.com hosting a site for me - doesn't that cost money? I have the CNAME for the alias "www" pointing to "enklined.dyndns.org" - its the ARecord thats the potential problem. I'm thinking that when my IP changes, only http://www.enklined.com will work because www has a CNAME pointing to enklined.dyndns.org, and http://enklined.com will NOT work, because, if I understand it correctly, my ARecord is pointing to my IP directly, which is where "http://enklined.com" goes. If there's a free godaddy.com site or something that you're talking about, let me know. Otherwise, I guess I'll just access my site from http://www.enklined.com instead.

No problem.

As for the GoDaddy/Arecord/CNAME thing, I guess I was (probably still am) a little confused.

I was under the impression that (at some point) enklined.com was hosted at GoDaddy and that you want to host the site yourself. The problem is, as you already know, the DNS A record requires an IP address. CNAMEs (aka aliases) can use a FQDN (i.e. somehost.somedomain.com). As you state, if you point the A record to a dynamic IP, as soon as your IP address changes, people will not be able to reach your site via enklined.com (alhtough the dyndns name will still work).

Unless you're prepared to pay your ISP for a static IP, it will be difficult to point an A record to your NAS. The underlying problem is that the "root" domain (ie. enklined.com) needs an A record set.

From the ZoneEdit FAQ:

May I see an example of a WebPark?

Every zone must have an IP address defined for the domain name at the root of the zone.

For example, in the zone "enklined.com" which contains all domain names that end in "enklined.com", only the domain name "enklined.com" is at the root. This means that while domain names like "www.enklined.com" and "mail.enklined.com" are inside the "enklined.com" zone, only "enklined.com" would be at the root of the "enklined.com" zone. It's a little subtle, but this is the terminology used by DNS experts.

Within the Advanced DNS Manager there are many ways to define the root of the zone. You can specify an IP Address (A) record, a WebForward, or a WebPark for "enklined.com", and your DNS will function perfectly.

As for free alternatives to GoDaddy (for DNS hosting), I use ZoneEdit.com. ZoneEdit offers "web-parking","web-forwards" and "cloaking".

You may be able to get this working by doing the following:

1. Setup an account at ZoneEdit.com.
2. Transfer enklined.com to ZoneEdit.
3. "WebPark" enklined.com at ZoneEdit and setup an "under construction" page that informs users to go to http://www.enklined.com.
4. Setup a CNAME for http://www.enklined.com/ that points to your dyndns name.

I do not know if this will work, but with some trial & error at your end you may be able to get it working. You can also try using "WebForward" and cloaking.

As far as accessing FrontView over the internet, I tried step 2 of your suggestions first, to no avail. Then I tried step 1, and my browser instructed me to use https://enklined.com:10443/admin instead of http://. So, it works, but the URL is a little "dirtier" than I'd like. It'll work though, so, a big thanks to you!
If possible, I'd like to setup something like "http://admin.enklined.com" or "https://admin.enklined.com" to access FrontView. I don't know if thats even possible, or how exactly I'd do it...

Glad it worked. There's no easy way to "hide" the port number when you use a non-standard port. As the previous post indicates, you can create multiple virtual hosts (ie. http://admin.enklined.com) by manually editing the Apache .conf file on your NAS.

Again, messing around with these configuration files can mess up your NAS (seeing as all administrative functions are performed via http access, you could end up locked out of your NAS if you bork some Apache settings).

As for ssh, the links provided by Paul (sphardy) should get you started. If you require more detailed instructions regarding his instructions for changing the shell in the /etc/passwd file, I posted something a while ago here:

http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewtopic ... 340#p93159

-Dave

[enklined]

Thanks guys. I'll do some research and stuff to educate myself when I get home later tonight. I appreciate your responses greatly.

Last night, I attempted to "backup" my Led Zeppelin music from the NAS to a USB Flash Drive using FrontView. It started, then stopped and failed:

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Error encountered copying data from source path Music/Led Zeppelin ==> /USB_FLASH_3/Documents due to unsupported filename characters in the destination filesystem.
cp: cannot create regular file '/USB_FLASH_3/Documents/./:2eDS_Store': Invalid argument

I then formatted the drive to EXT3, and the backup worked flawlessly. Upon installing a program on windows so that I could read/write EXT3 devices, I noticed there was a filed called "2eDS_Store" which is exactly the file that couldn't transfer during my SSH cp (and I now know I need to add the -R to get the subdirectories). Anyway, i think this "2eDS_Store" file was the cause for the failed backup via FrontView, as it stopped backing up once it encountered this file - What is this file? And how did it get on my NAS? Is there anyway to get rid of it? I don't want my backups to continually fail from FrontView because my FAT32 devices do not recognize it...

EDIT: Just read your Post in that thread you linked, Dave....Wow. I'm in way over my head, but would love to learn. I just hope I don't F something up!

[sphardy]

:2eDS_Store is a file is related to maintaining various Mac related settings. I didn't see any reference to you using a Mac - Are you accessing the NAS from a Mac over CIFs?

Unfortunately FAT32 formatted files systems do not allow the colon character in file names, which is why your first backup failed. Ext3 does allow such characters.

///P

[enklined]

Sorry, maybe I should have said so before, yes I am using a Mac (Macbook Pro) primarily (I use AFP when accessing the NAS from my Mac), but have been accessing FrontView as well as the NAS from my desktop PC, and FrontView from my work PC (both running XP).

I also use Mac's terminal when using SSH - i think it's preloaded with OpenSSH.

I know my Mac copies a file called .ds_store or something to that effect when I copy files from my Mac to a FAT32 flash drive, but that never gives me any problems.

Is there a way to stop this :2eDS_Store? Well, I guess if I copy files using SSH, i won't have a problem, as the copy will not completely terminate because of the error, like it does in FrontView, is that correct?

[sphardy]

You can disable the creation of these files - but beware that you will lose certain 'niceties' of the Mac (eg icon placement). In a terminal enter:

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defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores true

You can read more at http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=15179
///P

[enklined]

You can disable the creation of these files - but beware that you will lose certain 'niceties' of the Mac (eg icon placement). In a terminal enter:

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defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores true

You can read more at http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=15179
///P

Excellent, I will look into it a bit more when I get home, thanks much!

In the thread you linked, someone suggested using a "SFTP/SSH GUI" instead of SSH Bash, as bash commands can (and will, in my case, I know it) screw things up. Why hasn't anyone told me about such a program! Lol! I assume you can still kill things in a SSH GUI, but it sounds like it'll be much easier to use.

Can anyone recommend a good SFTP/SSH GUI program?