Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

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Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

Postby auben » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:43 am

Hi,

I have a ReadyNAS Duo (RND2150) v2

Yesterday I had firmware RAIDiator 4.1.6 [1.00a043] and want to update firmware and install bigger disks.

I went to "https://192.168.xxx.yyy/admin/" and logged in as admin/password.
I went to System -> Update -> Remote -> Check for update

After a while, I was offered to download 4.1.8, so I did.
I was expecting 5.3.5 (ARM).

A further "System -> Update -> Remote -> Check for update" says I have the latest version.

Q: Do I have the ARM, or Sparc, or x86, or Duo-v1, or other???

Thanks,
Ben.
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Re: Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

Postby HERBIEO » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:09 am

if you had firmware RAIDiator 4.1.6 was offered to download 4.1.8 then you have a DUO v1 which as the (sparc) cpu,
the 5.3.5 firmware is for DUO v2 which as the (ARM) cpu.
ReadyNas Duo v2 ------ Firmware: RAIDiator 5.3.7
UPS ---------------------- APC Back-UPS 550G-UK
Network: --------------- Netgear WNDR4500 Router - TP-Link-SG1005D Gigabit Switch
OS: ---------------------- Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)
CPU Info: --------------- Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 3239.0 MHz
Memory (RAM): -------- 6136 MB
Motherboard: --------- ASUSTeK Computer INC. Rampage II Extreme
Network Adapters: -- Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
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Re: Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

Postby PapaBear » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:12 am

You have the Duo (v1) which was on the market for years. The Duo v2 was released to the market in late 2011.

The Duo (v1) and NV+ (v1) are sparc based and the version of RAIDiator is 4.1.x.

The Duo v2 and NV+ v2 are ARM based and the version of RAIDiator is 5.3.x.

The two cannot be mixed. If you ever add a new Duo v2 to your setup, be aware that you cannot simply pull the drives from a v1 and install in a v2 as the formatting is incompatible.

RAIDiator 4.1.8 is the latest released version for the v1 although 4.1.9 is in Beta testing.

There is no models with the Duo or NV+ name in the x-86 based lines (Pro and Ultra lines only with 2, 4. and 6 bays). Older discontinued models in this architecture are the old 6 bay Pros and 4 bay NVXs. The version of RAIDiator with the x-86 based units is 4.2.x.
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Re: Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5 RDN

Postby auben » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:18 am

Ok, thanks for that clarification.
Can i SSH into the NAS and "cat /etc/osinfo" or something to verify this myself? I do have the SSH addon installed.

On the bottom of the NAS it says "ReadyNAS Duo RND2150 v2",
but the RND2150 is a silver sticker covering up the words...
after i rip the sticker off, "RND2000".

The "v2" threw me off...
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Re: Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

Postby HERBIEO » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:19 am

on the front of a DUO v2 it actually says DUO v2
as you can see from my sig thats what i have.
ReadyNas Duo v2 ------ Firmware: RAIDiator 5.3.7
UPS ---------------------- APC Back-UPS 550G-UK
Network: --------------- Netgear WNDR4500 Router - TP-Link-SG1005D Gigabit Switch
OS: ---------------------- Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)
CPU Info: --------------- Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 3239.0 MHz
Memory (RAM): -------- 6136 MB
Motherboard: --------- ASUSTeK Computer INC. Rampage II Extreme
Network Adapters: -- Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
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Re: Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

Postby auben » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:22 am

on the front mine says "ReadyNAS Duo" without the "v2"
the "v2" is only written on the plate on the underside of the unit.
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Re: Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

Postby HERBIEO » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:24 am

as far as i know the v2 on the sticker only means a hardware revision of that model.
ReadyNas Duo v2 ------ Firmware: RAIDiator 5.3.7
UPS ---------------------- APC Back-UPS 550G-UK
Network: --------------- Netgear WNDR4500 Router - TP-Link-SG1005D Gigabit Switch
OS: ---------------------- Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)
CPU Info: --------------- Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 3239.0 MHz
Memory (RAM): -------- 6136 MB
Motherboard: --------- ASUSTeK Computer INC. Rampage II Extreme
Network Adapters: -- Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
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Re: Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

Postby auben » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:28 am

I am happy to know I now have the latest firmware.

Is it now recommended to do a factory reset? All my data is backed up.

Then I want to put in bigger disks, from 1x500G to 2x2T (finally will get to use the redundancy feature)
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Re: Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

Postby HERBIEO » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:31 am

Yes if you have all your data backed up its not a bad idea to do a factory reset get a nice clean install on new hard disks.
well you will have to do a factory reset to set up with X-RAID because if you only had 1 disk in it will be setup as flex raid or jbod.
ReadyNas Duo v2 ------ Firmware: RAIDiator 5.3.7
UPS ---------------------- APC Back-UPS 550G-UK
Network: --------------- Netgear WNDR4500 Router - TP-Link-SG1005D Gigabit Switch
OS: ---------------------- Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)
CPU Info: --------------- Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 3239.0 MHz
Memory (RAM): -------- 6136 MB
Motherboard: --------- ASUSTeK Computer INC. Rampage II Extreme
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Re: Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

Postby Charles R » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:59 am

I really think their tech (and marketing) guys could have done better with the model naming conventions.
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Re: Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

Postby HERBIEO » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:27 pm

Yes i agree it is a bit confusing added with the RND2xxx labeling which only indicates if it was a diskless unit or hard disks installed on purchase. i am glad i had a good read of all the documentation before i purchased mine.
ReadyNas Duo v2 ------ Firmware: RAIDiator 5.3.7
UPS ---------------------- APC Back-UPS 550G-UK
Network: --------------- Netgear WNDR4500 Router - TP-Link-SG1005D Gigabit Switch
OS: ---------------------- Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)
CPU Info: --------------- Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 3239.0 MHz
Memory (RAM): -------- 6136 MB
Motherboard: --------- ASUSTeK Computer INC. Rampage II Extreme
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Re: Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

Postby PapaBear » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:44 am

When the v2 series was released with the same names, there was a howl on the forums about the confusion that would reign. The development staff told us they tried to get the marketing people to understand that, but apparently they wanted to build on the reputation of the originals. Marketing types don't listen to engineers. There was mild confusion between the original Pro models (BE and Pioneer) and the Pro 6 when it was released, but at least the disks can be moved between them and they both use the same version of RAIDiator. I think we will be dealing with the v1 vs v2 confusion for years.
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Re: Duo v2, firmware update 4.1.6 -> 4.1.8 not ARM-5.3.5

Postby chirpa » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:24 pm

Charles R wrote:I really think their tech (and marketing) guys could have done better with the model naming conventions.
Agreed, we tried, but lost that battle.

The v2 sticker on the bottom is confusing. At one point there was a small hardware change due to supply, back around 2008-9. It really should have said V1H2, for version 1 hardware revision 2.
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