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Access from outside limited to photos.readynas.com

Postby zebray » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:16 pm

I have a ReadyNas Ultra 2 running both Photos II and AirVideo
I have a static IP address that is also DNSd.
I have AirVideo up and running and access from outside the LAN works fine for all devices using either IP or domain name.
I am 100% confident there are no firewall or UDP issues within the LAN for WAN access to the NAS.
I can access Photos II using the URL photos.readynas.com/[Name]/[Photographer] from WAN/LAN/mobile locations

I can NOT access PhotosII using the domain name or the IP?

What is up with that? Does HTTP need to be active on the NAS because it is not? What am I missing?
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Re: Access from outside limited to photos.readynas.com

Postby zebray » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:16 am

Maybe I should ask the forum moderator to answer a simple question:

Can PhotosII be set up to serve from a DNSd URL or does the product REQUIRE access from the photos.readynas.com domain?

Pretty easy; just give me a yes or no......could you please?
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Re: Access from outside limited to photos.readynas.com

Postby Wish » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:05 am

Try your.domain.com:8086/photos2/login.html
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Re: Access from outside limited to photos.readynas.com

Postby yoh-dah » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:23 am

Private domain names are currently not supported. This is something we're looking at.
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Re: Access from outside limited to photos.readynas.com

Postby zebray » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:20 am

Yoh-Dah,

Thank you for the response, that saves me a lot of time trying to troubleshoot something that is not possible.

However, one of the main reasons for getting a NAS is to have a very small footprint on the internet. I don't want Google, Apple, or any other organization snooping into my personal life and for this reason, I, and probably many other users chose to host our own services within our own home. Your terms of use are obnoxious and frankly obtrusive to the point of being nothing different from the likes of those previously mentioned. If I didn't care about this, I would use Picasa or some other cloud based service, also for free, and allow for the marketing vultures to troll my "anonymous" information. It would save me a lot of trouble in managing my own NAS - but I didn't. I paid top dollar for a Ready NAS device so that I could be outside the system and maintain my privacy.

Plus, I don't want to have to understand a TOS/EUL that was written by lawyers who get paid $$$$ to write convoluted sentences that real world people don't understand. It is very unfortunate that your valuable NAS customers cannot uncouple themselves from this obtrusive snooping of my personal life.

Fortunately, I have options and will remove the service from my NAS and seek to find either a PHP solution I write myself or some other software that will satisfy my needs. I am willing to pay for these things to protect my privacy and your organization should consider this as an option.

From the Ready NAS Photos II EUL/TOS:
Personal Data. You acknowledge and agree that NETGEAR may track your usage statistics on its server to help NETGEAR monitor how many people are using the ReadyNAS Photos II software and to determine the number of photos and albums being shared or viewed. Remotely uploaded photos will go through NETGEAR’s servers until the photos are picked up by your ReadyNAS, but NETGEAR will not permanently store these photos or their accompanying text on the servers. You also acknowledge and agree that NETGEAR may track the redirections to your ReadyNAS and log email transactions by you and other users.
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Re: Access from outside limited to photos.readynas.com

Postby pvong » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:21 pm

+1
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Re: Access from outside limited to photos.readynas.com

Postby InTheShires » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:28 pm

+2

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Re: Access from outside limited to photos.readynas.com

Postby yoh-dah » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:18 pm

With regard to the particular paragraph in the TOS, it was in effect to make sure our users understand that if you are remotely uploading photos via Eye-Fi and email, your photos will have to traverse through our ftp and mail server just so we can ensure that these photos get to your ReadyNAS. This is really no different than if you sent email -- it's got to go through a series of servers before your message gets to a destination. Also, some folks turn off their ReadyNAS at certain hours in the day or night, or Internet access to the ReadyNAS is not always available. Our service allows the images to park on our server until we're able to deliver them. That said, if you upload photos from a laptop remotely, photos go straight to your ReadyNAS.

With regard to usage statistics, they are useful information to determine the popularity of the service, whether the service is properly scaling, and whether we need to consider additional server capacity. If you feel uncomfortable with it, I'm sorry Photos II didn't work out for you, but it is one of the most popular ReadyNAS services and our ReadyNAS users seem to like it quite a bit.
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Re: Access from outside limited to photos.readynas.com

Postby zebray » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:50 am

yoh-dah,

Thank you for your response and clarification; however, I find the explanation faulty in the following ways. However, first let me recognize that I am likely a minority of your users who based on my own personal views actively manage how and where my personal life is used and exposed on the internet. Furthermore, I believe that companies do not have a right to know anything about me simply because we conducted business with each other. I bought the ReadyNAS, I think it is a very good product and I would recommend it to many of my friends. It serves a number of my needs and frankly I am really enjoying the opportunities the device affords me. But that transaction does not, in my own opinion, permit the company to track my use of the product. FaceBook users, for example, willing submit gobs of personal data to an organization which explicitly and willfully profits on selling your "anonymous" data to marketing groups solely to target products to you. Obviously, based on FaceBooks enormous success, I am a minority of internet users or perhaps I am more informed on how this information is used to undermine individuals decisions about the products they buy, use and like. "Anonymous" statistics is a facade, using tracking data on sites I manage, we can determine based on your IP and usage behavior (3 clicks) your age, gender, median income, number of children you have, ages of your children and a whole host of other "anonymous" bits of information. The concept is truly a joke these days within the industry, but most internet users are willfully oblivious. Hey, nothing is free - right?

In any event, the use of email to upload photos is a very nice feature and I congratulate you and others at Netgear for developing such a seamless way of adding content - especially mobile content. I do like the feature but could easily build a PHP listener to do the same thing on the NAS. Not too difficult to do really. You would not need to add server capacity if the service ran locally on the NAS - right? No need to scale if your servers are out of the delivery loop. Finally, many programs ask at the time of installation if they would like to participate in usage statistics sharing to product provider. Netgear could implement the same to gather the same basic statistics for popularity, service scaling, bug reporting, etc while giving other user an option to opt-out. This is a widely used and well adopted option which I recommend you elect.

Finally, I do appreciate your comments and agree that the Photos II is very good software - minus, of course, the intrusion into my privacy. :D
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Re: Access from outside limited to photos.readynas.com

Postby pugilares » Thu May 31, 2012 1:45 pm

1. On your NAS you run ftp service with remote access.
2. While on the move, you create your gallery with the help of the software which creates photo galleries - you can find it.
3. Then you upload gallery to your NAS through FTP to the designated folder. This folder you made accessible through http for your audience.
4. You e-mail your audience with the link to the gallery located on your NAS.

So, what you need is to make http service on your NAS accessible from the internet side. Something like dynamic dns service might help if you don't have fixed IP and a domain name.
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Re: Access from outside limited to photos.readynas.com

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