Slimserver and Moose

[Skywalker]

Hi MJA

Thanks for the reply! Sadly though I can't telnet to that port. It's really odd as I'm on a flat LAN and I've checkeb my PC's firewall. Nothing is being blocked. I even disabled it but no luck.

Anyone with any thoughts as to why this could be happening or how to work around it?

Did you install the addon to enable remote access to the SlimServer DB linked to earlier in this thread?

[Kaizen]

Thanks Skywalker!

Man, I'm now so tantalisingly close...

When I telnet on port 3306 I get:

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5.0.24a-Debian_3.infrant1♥Y&O;wh$u,ó!☻D4tnJfBXs[OX
►☺♦Bad handshake
Connection to host lost.

Sadly still not got Moose to work yet - the updating bar flashes up for a second and then the process ends. I'll keep hacking away at it.

[Kaizen]

Yes!!!!

It's chugging away in the background but my mistake was having extracted the incorrect version of the MySQL DLL.

Thanks again everyone!!

[Kaizen]

Hmmm (scratching head)

It seems I spoke to soon. Roughly 1700 songs into a 50000 song collection Moose shows:

Problem MySQL scanning: Connection unexpectedly terminated.

I've retried numerous times and it happens at the same point. Could a corrupt MP3 file cause this?

[mja]

Hmmm (scratching head)

It seems I spoke to soon. Roughly 1700 songs into a 50000 song collection Moose shows:

Problem MySQL scanning: Connection unexpectedly terminated.

I've retried numerous times and it happens at the same point. Could a corrupt MP3 file cause this?

Kaizen,

This is the error I am getting. The scan will go 5000-6000 into a 12000 song collection before I'm toast.

-mja

[MikeMcr]

I have just bought a Squeezebox 3 and was very disappointed with the poor web performance from Slimserver on the NV+ (how can these two devices be recommended together?)

Moose seems to be the way to go and I have it working. However, has anyone noticed that when Moose is running, the LCD display of the Squeezebox becomes jerky and the scrolling is no longer smooth? Is this another problem caused by the slow NV+ CPU or is there a way to improve it?

[Kaizen]

Hi MikMcr

So, Moose is working perfectly for you on the NV+? It scans the Slimserver database file without a hiccup?

I guess I have to send some mail to Dr Lovegrove...

[MikeMcr]

So, Moose is working perfectly for you on the NV+? It scans the Slimserver database file without a hiccup?

Yes but I have a small collection as I have only just started copying onto the NV. That is why I was very disappointed at the poor performance of the NV+.

[BigMike]

So, Moose is working perfectly for you on the NV+? It scans the Slimserver database file without a hiccup?

Yes but I have a small collection as I have only just started copying onto the NV. That is why I was very disappointed at the poor performance of the NV+.

Moose is working for me!

I have SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 10479 running on my Infrant 1000S.

Moose is running on a PC, with the net 2 version of the MySql.Data.dll, and the .net 2 framework installed to support Moose.

It all works. Having Moose do a scan of slimservers MySql database takes about 300 seconds (scanning covers takes another 5 minutes).

My music takes about 95 gigs, and there are 17,000 fles.

[eric_carroll]

BigMike,

For those of us trying to make a purchase decision on the SB3, Moose seems to be the way to go.

Can you summarize how you set this up so others can benefit from your success?

If this appears viable as a workaround to the slow (unusable?) webserver issue, I will likely go this way and proceed with my SB3 and Transporter purchase.

Thanks,

Eric

[eric_carroll]

Success!

I got Moose running using Moose 0.49, carefully following the instructions in http://www.rusticrhino.com/drlovegrove/setup.html, getting the right mySQL DLL, installing Skywalker's add-on, and using the data from the NV system email & logs after installing the add-on.

Now if we could just get all the rest of the slimserver GUI offloaded off the NV+ and leave only the fileserving applications behind we would all be much happier!

It would be amazing if you could gen the database offline of the NV+ and install it using file sharing for example.

Slimserver appears to need some modularization. It appears to assume that all its admin, control, transcoding, persistence and search functions are all together with a web server. It might be worth looking at how to split it up:
- file server/transcoder/SB3 GUI control
- an offboard admin GUI using a command line interface to the backend
- an onboard/offboard method for generating the db
- an offboard PC control GUI using the command line interface (this is Moose!)

In my opinion, you shouldn't have to run a web server on the NV+ to run the slimserver. The back end (NV+ native part) should be able to be command line driven plus whatever the SB* needs.

Since it is free code (I think) maybe its worth a look to rationalize it...

Just my $0.02 of course...

Please add this add-on to the official add-on list. It makes slimserver SO much speedier to use.

Thanks, Skywalker!

[Kaizen]

Hi All

Just to let you know that Moose 0.50 has been released and it has a 'fast scan' option which you'll need to turn off to do the new scanning method..

It solved my problems with the connection being closed and the SQL library scan never completing.

Cheers

PS A HUMUNGOUS thank you to Dr Lovegrove for his help.

[jcollins]

My music takes about 95 gigs, and there are 17,000 fles.

Wow, 95 gigs. I feel like a piker with my roughly 40 gigs of mp3's (mostly podcasts and not music though)... What format do you store those in?

[eric_carroll]

Just to let you know that Moose 0.50 has been released and it has a 'fast scan' option which you'll need to turn off to do the new scanning method..

Fast scan worked for me...

[BigMike]

BigMike,

For those of us trying to make a purchase decision on the SB3, Moose seems to be the way to go.

Can you summarize how you set this up so others can benefit from your success?

If this appears viable as a workaround to the slow (unusable?) webserver issue, I will likely go this way and proceed with my SB3 and Transporter purchase.

Thanks,

Eric

I envy your Transporter!

I'm not holding back on you here, but there really isn't anything to getting moose running. Look at Dr Lovergrove's site, set it up, and run it, what can I say ...

What I can say is it there are two big performance problems with slimserver on the Infrant:

1. Slimserver running on infrant takes a long time (many hours) to scan 100 gigs of mp3's to build the library database

2. using the web interface to slimserver to browse your collection and control your squeezebox sort of sucks - the user interface just isn't responsive enough. NOTE: the file serving performance of the Infrant is great, certainly no issues serving up all the data needed to drive the squeezebox without issues.

It turns out that problem #1 doesn't really bother me ... I tend to rip a bunch of CDs once in a while, then I have to rescan, and if I start the rescan, and it's done the next morning, that's really ok ...

Prolem #2 is what Moose solves!