Time Machine

[Flash]

I was getting ready to post that link also. I'm looking forward to someone trying it out. Did Apple also remove the option for a secured disk image backup with Time Machine?

[thedonga]

no joy in mudville...just not working.

[ptaylor874]

I second that... I created a 100 GB disk image formatted with HFS+ and followed the command line instructions above, but it doesn't recognize it as a potential time machine drive...

[Infinite]

I am using SuperDuper as well until this Time machine fix is made. The other interesting fact is that the Airport stop supporting Network USB drives after there last patch about a month or two ago. My friend has been pissed about that and Mac still hasn't fixed this issue with the Airport Extreme.

[sonicboom]

This is one of the reasons why I bought the readynas, in anticipation of time machine for backing-up my three macs.

Son of a B!

When will I learn to buy based on fact instead of fiction.

I know this is Apple's wrong doing, but I hope Infrant can provide a clever hack to help us work around this.

[ptaylor874]

I've read elsewhere that the reason the USB over Airport Extreme doesn't work is because a feature has to be enabled by Leopard on the file system itself (something that has to do with hard linking)... According to what I've read, if you hook the USB drive up and set time machine to run on it, you can then detach the USB drive and reattach it to the Airport Extreme, and Time Machine will see it and use it.

I tried creating a 100 GB disk image, and went through the "touch, chmod" process, but couldn't get time machine to recognize it. Oddly, when I did the chmod root:admin, the ownership didn't actually change to root, which may be why it didn't work for me. Of course, I don't know if time machine will backup to a disk image anyhow... It may not. If it does, we should be able to do some trickery to get it to work.

I'm thinking that if someone can get a disk image to work, they could repeat the process with a fresh disk image, but not actually enable time machine. Then, they could zip up the disk image (which should be tiny, since almost nothing has been written to it), and they could upload it to others for use on their NAS...

Hmm.. Is it possible to create a disk image from a drive that time machine will see? If so, could that be used to solve this issue?

[ericdano]

This is one of the reasons why I bought the readynas, in anticipation of time machine for backing-up my three macs.

Son of a B!

When will I learn to buy based on fact instead of fiction.

I know this is Apple's wrong doing, but I hope Infrant can provide a clever hack to help us work around this.

The cleaver hack would be someone updating the Netatalk stuff so it supports the new hooks in AFP.

[ericdano]

I've read elsewhere that the reason the USB over Airport Extreme doesn't work is because a feature has to be enabled by Leopard on the file system itself (something that has to do with hard linking)... According to what I've read, if you hook the USB drive up and set time machine to run on it, you can then detach the USB drive and reattach it to the Airport Extreme, and Time Machine will see it and use it.

I think the problem is more that the Firmware for Airport Extreme has some problems, and was not going to be ready in time for 10.5's launch. I'd expect it in an update soon.

I tried creating a 100 GB disk image, and went through the "touch, chmod" process, but couldn't get time machine to recognize it. Oddly, when I did the chmod root:admin, the ownership didn't actually change to root, which may be why it didn't work for me. Of course, I don't know if time machine will backup to a disk image anyhow... It may not. If it does, we should be able to do some trickery to get it to work.

You might want to try creating the image on the Mac, and trying to have Time Machine start backing up to that, then move it to a NAS and see if it continues.

I'm thinking that if someone can get a disk image to work, they could repeat the process with a fresh disk image, but not actually enable time machine. Then, they could zip up the disk image (which should be tiny, since almost nothing has been written to it), and they could upload it to others for use on their NAS...

Interesting idea, except how do you resize it? Over the network? Do they automatically resize?

Hmm.. Is it possible to create a disk image from a drive that time machine will see? If so, could that be used to solve this issue?

It sounds like in the Betas of 10.5, something like this was supported. It might be as easy as changing a preference. I'm sure there are talented people looking into this as we speak.........

[thedonga]

ok I got it to work....

steps coming up in a second.

[ericdano]

ok I got it to work....

steps coming up in a second.

Now, the big question would be does it resize itself?

I'd love to get my Macs backuped via Time Machine........

[thedonga]

You need an external USB drive

Connect the drive and format it HFS+
for this example I will name it backup
Set it up as the Time Machine drive once formatted.

Go into system preferences and turn off Time Machine.

Go into FrontView and create a share, for this example I will name it backups, set a quota you want to use I did double my Mac's hard drive

Open terminal
type the following commands

cd /

cd Volumes

ls -a -l (make note of .00 filename)

cp ./backup/.00filename ./backups/.00filename

cp ./backup/.com.apple.timemachine.supported ./backups/.com.apple.timemachine.supported

sudo umount backup
sudo umount backups

then go back into Frontview and rename backups volume to backup
connect to ReadyNAS through finder afp://IPADDRESS
choose backup volume to connect to

Relaunch TimeMachine...

BAM!

There may be other ways to do this, but this worked for me.

[ericdano]

You need an external USB drive

Connect the drive and format it HFS+
for this example I will name it backup
Set it up as the Time Machine drive once formatted.

So, you need a USB/Firewire drive, Name it, Name a share in FrontView as, then copy those two files?

That is great. Good job.

[thedonga]

yep pretty freakin simple

[ericdano]

yep pretty freakin simple

Just posted your trick to the apple discussion board. Hopefully others can verify it and what not.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp ... 43#5663843

[thedonga]

It's backing up as I type....going to have to play around a bit and see how it resizes etc....as far as I can tell it is working perfectly though.